Case back codes and movements

[fredlind]

After a few months of following Enicars on line and reading "the book" I have a few questions.

On early Enicars with EPSA cases, quite a lot of the watches I have seen have case back codes starting with 100/XXX. Would that mean that there should be a 100X movement in that watch? Would a watch with a 1010 movement also have a code starting with 100 or 101?

In the later watches with the shark/dolphin and Saturn on the case back, how concerned should I be if it is a watch with date (thus with an AR 141, 145, 161 or 165 movement) but the case back code starts with for example 140. Could that be the original case back or has someone put in whatever case back they have had available (and possibly done all sorts of dreadful things to the poor watch)?

I guess there has to some degree of method in the madness of the rest of the case back code numbers. Is one of the numbers just a model number? Does the other number mean anything else (for example finish on the case or something)? Have you more knowledgeable Enicar lovers seen a pattern here?

Is "T ENICAR SWISS T" a valid printing on genuine Enicars? I have seen this on a few watches on line.

 

[fredlind]

On reading “the book” (Time for a change, of course), I think I have found the answer to my last question on page 256-257 (although my French is a bit rusty). It seems that “Enicar Swiss” refers to watches with Swiss Enicar movements but cases manufactured(?) in South Korea.

When it comes to my other questions, I’m still a bit confused.

 

[hurmen]

You are not alone... I haven't been able to figure out the case back number system(s) entirely.

And it's not helping that Enicar changed their case back coding system over the years.

For example: The reference number for the Sherpa Super Dive with AR1145 movement was changed from 145/006 to 144-35-02 at some point.

I would say that the 145 in the earlier 145/006 reference number referred directly to the AR1145 movement.
And that the 144 in the later 144-35-02 reference number only referred to the base movement AR1144 (1144 no date, 1145 date, 1146 24H date, 1147 day date).

Maybe anyone else knows more?