WTB Jet Graph

atropicaldial

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Of course, I’m asking for the world, but where else better to ask for it.

Looking for an excellent condition early Jet Graph. Condition is everything.

It’s less of a matter of finding one for cheap, than it is finding one in the right condition (there’s plenty of trash ones on Chrono24).

Will pay fair value.
 

jbcollier

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Enicaristi
Sherpa
Unlike Rolexes but similar to Autavias, Enicar tool watches were used as intended. Finding little used examples is not common. They dove, flew, worked in offices and on the job site. They were then serviced with whatever parts were to hand and put back to work.

I think seeking mint, unused examples, such as is common with other brands, largely misses the point and the true value of collecting Enicar watches. While I don’t purposely seek out the worst condition examples I can find, I do enjoy the story behind how a watch was used, enjoyed and put to work.

Just my opinion though.
 

Joe_A

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Enicaristi
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One point of view is that the badly beaten up Autavias and Enicars were used for their intended purpose. But another likely possibility is that they were relatively inexpensive watches and many owners did not care for them as they thought them to be disposable at the time.

I concede that a cavalier approach to use doesn't explain why a Nivada/Grenchen or a Gallet pilot watch may be more likely found to be in good shape whereas a very similar Autavia is beaten up, especially when it comes to the bezel.

Who knew that these watches would someday be valuable? If I remember correctly, an 1163 Autavia was under $300, but if you bought a carton of Viceroy cigarettes and sent in a coupon found on the carton along with about $80, you could obtain what is today called an 1163 Viceroy.

While I appreciate and understand your point, JB, some of us simply won't acquire or wear a watch that was poorly cared for no matter the provenance.

To some of us, what is referred to as "a fine patina," is in reality, a damaged dial, and in some cases, a badly damaged dial. Tell that to one who is seeking a Longines 13ZN though and such a person may virtually roll their eyes - or express horror . . . as it is extremely difficult to find a 13ZN in pristine condition.

In the case of our beloved Enicar watches, we often have to except a badly scratched up case back when it comes to the EPSA bayonet cases because no one took the time to acquire the proper tool or learn how to open them properly. They just weren't regarded well enough at the time to take the required care.

A trend I have noticed is that beat up watches may be dropping in value while the pristine examples are going up.

To each, his own as they say.

I hope I am not coming across as a snob. ;)

I am happy for the people who acquire a beat-up watch and are pleased to own it.

Cheers,
 

SteveHarris

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Enicaristi
Sherpa
If we were all the same it really would be incredibly boring 😅. I actually sit bang in the middle of those two schools of thought. I love an excellent condition watch as much as I love one that shows a bit of wear. Whichever one ends up on my wrist from one day to the next depends on what mood i'm in!
 

Joe_A

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Enicaristi
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Also . . .

Some watch references just do not age well most likely according to how they were assembled or the materials chosen in the first place.

Take, for example the Movado M90 or M95.

I find these watches to be beautiful especially when they have Kris hands, sometimes also called snake hands, but try to find one with a clean dial. 90% of these M90s and M95s have dials with light to very heavy "patina."

This is pretty typical of the type I am referring to:

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Lot's of luck finding one like this:

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Or like this:

 

atropicaldial

New member
Well this turned into a really excellent thread, and I appreciate everyone’s differing thoughts.

I understand the references to being tool watches. For me that makes the quest for something in amazing condition even more fun of a pursuit!
 

tigertom

New member
Of course, I’m asking for the world, but where else better to ask for it.

Looking for an excellent condition early Jet Graph. Condition is everything.

It’s less of a matter of finding one for cheap, than it is finding one in the right condition (there’s plenty of trash ones on Chrono24).

Will pay fair value.
Contact me per whatsapp: +436641984080
 

JimJupiter

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Enicaristi
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based on serial number it looks like a mk1b, but has a mk4 second hand. I am not an expert but i think Mk1bs are very rare. they dont even have it on the enicar 101 page
yeah sorry, I hope to add them in autumn ;)
 

mgernhar

New member
Sherpa
Of course, I’m asking for the world, but where else better to ask for it.

Looking for an excellent condition early Jet Graph. Condition is everything.

It’s less of a matter of finding one for cheap, than it is finding one in the right condition (there’s plenty of trash ones on Chrono24).

Will pay fair value.
I have a jet graph 1a and 1b, both in mint condition. Not really wanting to sell but might if someone makes an offer i cant refuse.
 

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mgernhar

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Of course, I’m asking for the world, but where else better to ask for it.

Looking for an excellent condition early Jet Graph. Condition is everything.

It’s less of a matter of finding one for cheap, than it is finding one in the right condition (there’s plenty of trash ones on Chrono24).

Will pay fair value.
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Of course, I’m asking for the world, but where else better to ask for it.

Looking for an excellent condition early Jet Graph. Condition is everything.

It’s less of a matter of finding one for cheap, than it is finding one in the right condition (there’s plenty of trash ones on Chrono24).

Will pay fair value.
 
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