Old watch, never serviced: give it to me straight, I can take it...

jbcollier

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So, hopefully Tuesday, a Sherpa Graph Mk3 will be arriving. I bought it from the original owner who has never had it serviced. Being an old mechanic who worked on old cars, I'm a bit trepidacious about running it without a proper service. I will take it a local watchmaker and see what the timegrapher has to say. But, even if it is ok, is it mad to run it without getting it serviced? On a watch that old? I only ask as my favourite watchmaker is a 14 hr drive away and my next trip there isn't until late May.
 

JimJupiter

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if it never was serviced, I woudnt risk it tbh. But I am happy to see pics from that Gem :D
 

JimJupiter

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Wear the hell out of it mate :D No Problem at all, Enicars were build to last!
 
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Joe_A

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I do have two vintage watches I did not get serviced yet and I am in no hurry.

Winding and setting is smooth
Time-keeping is good.
They check out on the timegrapher with good amplitude, low beat error rate.

If you have a collection, a timegrapher is an inexpensive thing to have and it's actually fun to use.

More important, you can benchmark the performance of a watch upon arrival and when you get it back from service you will truly know whether the person who serviced the watch really knows what he is doing or not.

The mode # 1000 are more than adequate and they're all the same no matter the brand.


Cheers,

Joe
 

jbcollier

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Sherpa
I have a 1900 on the way already as it has a bit better graphing ability. We'll see what it says. Make no mistake, it is going for a service! But, if I can enjoy it until it gets there, that would be nice.
 

Joe_A

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I have a Word document that I use with the timegrapher.

I can't attach it here, but if you are interested and you send your email to me via PM, I'll send the form in blank.

Here is what it looks like:
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I fill out the info by hand during measurement and then I transfer the data to an Excel spreadsheet and it comes out looking like this:

Enicar Sherpa Graph Mark Ib "Jim Clark" before service:

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After sending it out and receiving it properly serviced:

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If you have questions, I may have answers.

Cheers,

Joe

Edit:

Target Beat Error is < 1.0 msec It is immensely easier to adjust with a watch that has a mobile stud carrier. The mark Ib has a fixed stud carrier so a really good job was done getting the Beat error so low.

Amplitude as significantly improved as well.

If you were to only use "Gee, how much time does my watch gain or lose per day" as a way of evaluating service. you'd have no idea whatsoever whether the watch was serviced properly or not at all.

This watch was serviced by Ashton Tracy of Precision Horology in Canada:

 

gustavbu

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So, hopefully Tuesday, a Sherpa Graph Mk3 will be arriving. I bought it from the original owner who has never had it serviced. Being an old mechanic who worked on old cars, I'm a bit trepidacious about running it without a proper service. I will take it a local watchmaker and see what the timegrapher has to say. But, even if it is ok, is it mad to run it without getting it serviced? On a watch that old? I only ask as my favourite watchmaker is a 14 hr drive away and my next trip there isn't until late May.
as an old mechanic, i don't see you running a vintage Aston or Ferrari with 60 year old oil or filter in the engine :)
 

jbcollier

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jbcollier

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My watchmaker has opened the Sherpa Graph and found it in excellent shape even though it hasn’t been serviced in a long time. Everything is sharp with almost no sign of tool marks. Whew! Full service next. Might have it back in just a few weeks.
 
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