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kazrich

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This thread is reserved exclusively for ' Notta lotta people know that' Enicar nerds.
Please don't be offended by contributors apparent and often totally useless 'facts'.
Please do engage in pointless arguments about ' facts ' - nothing healthier than a good argument.

I'll get the ball rolling.

Did you know that the Sherpa Graph 3 sub dials are larger on a mid 60's Graph than a latter 60's Graph ?
These pics are taken directly above the watches with the camera lens set at 50mm , as the human eye
sees without distortion. The earlier watch dials don't only look bigger, but are measurably slightly larger.
Why did they do that ?

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Did you that many late 60's Graphs with a red lollipop seconds hand dumps the red lollipop smack onto
the centre of the red planet Saturn when re set ? Mine certainly does. An amusing touch by the design team.

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Richard
 

JimJupiter

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Haha, the fact with the red dot is awesome and maybe answers some questions of @Joe_A

Did you know that the subs of the first graphs kisses the markers? :DP5116418.jpgP5116433.jpg


Regarding the sub size, I think it was just taste of time. Heuers Autavias showed the same. The early ones had big subs, the later smaller ones.

Nico
 

SteveHarris

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Great idea for a thread (y) love it.

I know that Nico knows this, but did you know that Enicar should have been the 13th company providing watches to the Allies during WWII? Later, they were found to also be supplying watches to the Germans and had their contract cancelled. The remaining 12 watches later become known as the collector's 'Dirty Dozen'. No versions of the Enicar one have surfaced nor is it known if any were provided.

Steve
 

Joe_A

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Haha, the fact with the red dot is awesome and maybe answers some questions of @Joe_A

I did notice straight away that the lollipop seconds hand of the Kazrich Mark IV is solid red.

Has anyone yet found a photograph of a Mark IV with lollipop seconds that has a metal ring around the red dot as is the case for the Mark III?

@kazrich, the center seconds on your Mark III is unusual. I have not seen another like it, straight but with a red tip.

The presentation of your collection is nicely done.
 

kazrich

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Hi Joe ;
I shall explain the red tipped needle style seconds hand in a thread that I will soon post
regarding my own Graph. I have the full history of the watch from day one, as I purchased it from the original owner.
My conversation with the owner when I picked it up produced an embarrassing " I'll pretend you didn't say that " moment
for me, and all of a sudden I took Google searches far less seriously.
The watch was from memory featured in 'The Springbar'.
 

Joe_A

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Richard,

Thank you.

I only meant to observe that the central seconds was unusual, and I did not mean to comment one way or another on its status as factory original. I wouldn't know, but I look forward to hearing the story in due course. ;)

In any case it is a lovely watch and if you are happy with it, then that's what truly matters.
 

kazrich

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Hi Joe ;
Regarding the 'lollipop' solid red bulb.
I've just looked at mine through a loupe and I'm pretty sure that the red blob
is encased within a metal ring. However, It's because it's been slightly overfilled with
red 'Saturn dust' that it appears solid. Could be very wrong about that but you might
just about see it in this crop ?

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Joe_A

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Some real nerdy stuff here . . .

Could be . . .

Is the lollipop flat or bulbous?

The replacement hand I received and then returned had thick paint in the center and thin around the edges:

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One may perceive a ring, but actually it is just thin paint in the above case. There are more photos in my "looking for" thread.

In the case of the other ringed hands I have examined, the red dot is in a bit of a depression and the ring stands proud of the red circle. ;)
 

Joe_A

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Ah, so the mystery remains . . .

Have a look at Steve's newly acquired Mk III and you'll observe that the way the light hits it, one can see that the red center to the lollipop looks a bit concave rather than the "replacement" example I show above where the paint appears applied in a way that makes the dried paint look convex.

The nerd in me will urge me on. ;)
 
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