Enicar Jet Graph

mgernhar

Member
Enicaristi
Sherpa
I am not sure why all these jet graphs are on the market and going for cheap. I have a Mark 1 a.m. in a mark 1B which I think are much rarer than the mark threes and fours not sure what they're worth but I think with all these Mark threes and fours on the market and it lowers the price it's actually a much more complicated watch with the GMT function as well as the chronograph and I actually think they look better than the sherpa graph but to each his own I'm going to hang on to mind20220226_093835.jpg20220226_093808.jpg20220220_130914.jpg20220220_130849.jpg
 

jbcollier

Member
Enicaristi
Sherpa
I prefer the Jet Graph as well. I’ve never seen much use for a tachymetre scale but 12hr and 24hr bezels I’ve found very useful.

I imagine that a number of people are attempting to cash out what with the precipitous rise in prices. This may have the usual effect of lowering prices, or at least stalling their rise, but there is a limited supply on the other side of the equation to keep in mind. Especially the limited supply of mint to excellent examples.

At one time I was looking for one but I’ve decided I don’t need any more drawer queens and will stick to my Guides.
 

mgernhar

Member
Enicaristi
Sherpa
I prefer the Jet Graph as well. I’ve never seen much use for a tachymetre scale but 12hr and 24hr bezels I’ve found very useful.

I imagine that a number of people are attempting to cash out what with the precipitous rise in prices. This may have the usual effect of lowering prices, or at least stalling their rise, but there is a limited supply on the other side of the equation to keep in mind. Especially the limited supply of mint to excellent examples.

At one time I was looking for one but I’ve decided I don’t need any more drawer queens and will stick to my Guides.
I prefer the Jet Graph as well. I’ve never seen much use for a tachymetre scale but 12hr and 24hr bezels I’ve found very useful.

I imagine that a number of people are attempting to cash out what with the precipitous rise in prices. This may have the usual effect of lowering prices, or at least stalling their rise, but there is a limited supply on the other side of the equation to keep in mind. Especially the limited supply of mint to excellent examples.

At one time I was looking for one but I’ve decided I don’t need any more drawer queens and will stick to my Guides.
that makes sense. i actually think the mk1 and mk2 look better than the mk3 and 4. My mk1a is almost NOS, probably was worn a few times and put in a safe. its quite beautiful, but with the silver " pie tin" subdials it next to impossible to read unless the lighting conditions are perfect. my Mk1b, with an all black dial and subdials is easy to read, and its a great watch. it runs over 40 hrs with the chrono activated.. winds smooth as silk and only loses a few seconds a week. Also looks great on an original enicar jubilee band. I think i paid fair prices but near the top, and then put more money in to have them serviced (the mk 1b had a sticky) bezel. anyhow they are both very rare and probably among the very best examples. i will hang on and enjoy for the moment. Not sure where the watch market is going. I think the stock market is starting to have some effect. For example i have seen several aquastar deepstars that have been on the market for over a year at ~ 9k dollars, recently be cut by 2k, and still not selling.
 

Gopher

Member
Enicaristi
Sherpa
Interesting discussion. I prefer Sherpa Graphs (and the market seems to agree with me) strictly on looks. The Jet Graph bezel may be too garish for my taste with the shiny silver half. I like the sleeker look of the SG without the external bezel insert.

Sherpa Graph's connection to auto racing may drive some of the higher market demand. I am a car enthusiast, so this is a plus for me. Many watches tied to auto racing have been hotter than hot.

I agree the GMT function on the Jet Graph is more useful than the tachy, but let's acknowledge that functionality has little bearing on vintage watch collecting/values for most collectors.

My question is why have such a high percentage popped up lately in excellent to mint condition? I have never seen so many Enicars in such outstanding condition. For the record, I have a mint Jet Graph. We are not seeing this in Sherpa Graphs. I have witnessed a similar phenomenon with the UG Exotic Blue Nina (note this is an ultra-rare model). Maybe these models are just funky enough that people rarely wore them.
 

mgernhar

Member
Enicaristi
Sherpa
Interesting discussion. I prefer Sherpa Graphs (and the market seems to agree with me) strictly on looks. The Jet Graph bezel may be too garish for my taste with the shiny silver half. I like the sleeker look of the SG without the external bezel insert.

Sherpa Graph's connection to auto racing may drive some of the higher market demand. I am a car enthusiast, so this is a plus for me. Many watches tied to auto racing have been hotter than hot.

I agree the GMT function on the Jet Graph is more useful than the tachy, but let's acknowledge that functionality has little bearing on vintage watch collecting/values for most collectors.

My question is why have such a high percentage popped up lately in excellent to mint condition? I have never seen so many Enicars in such outstanding condition. For the record, I have a mint Jet Graph. We are not seeing this in Sherpa Graphs. I have witnessed a similar phenomenon with the UG Exotic Blue Nina (note this is an ultra-rare model). Maybe these models are just funky enough that people rarely wore them.
i dont know, but its interesting that there are 4-5 jets graphs on ebay for the past 6 months and a couple more on C24. I would have said there were more jet graphs than sherpa graphs, even though they were made in similar numbers... but i guess thats not true as there are alot of sherpa graphs on C24. The issue is that the price are too high... obviously above the market, and some of the sherpa graphs, have the wrong caseback etc so they dont sell. When a good one comes up on ebay, they always sell, if there is a bid vs fixed price. the last sherpa graph mk3, sold on ebay for 8k and it was a nice one. similar ones on c24 are 10-12k
 

JimJupiter

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Staff member
Enicaristi
Sherpa
I would have said there were more jet graphs than sherpa graphs, even though they were made in similar numbers...

The stats say around 10.000 Sherpa Graphs vs. around 7.000 Jet Graphs. Most Graphs for sale I know change hands from collector to collector, whereas the Jet Graph you find more often on the bay or C24. I guess its cause collectors prefer the Sherpa Graph. The reasons, I mainly share, are allready named. Another reason could be, that lots of Jet Graphs in great condition are unsold stock watches, since they were sold into the mid 70s, when the design was allready dated. These watches are now discovered or were build from leftover stocks like in the 90s.

For me the early Jet Graphs are great watches and still undervalued. It was the first watch with the Valjoux 724 and the first GMT Chronograph that was build in big numbers. The ones with blue or grey metallic dials are super rare, especially without patina. Interestingly a lot of them where used by military stuff,...so real purpose watches.

Nico
 

Enicarfan

New member
Sherpa
The Jet Graph is underrated for sure, but I also like the refined & restrained aspects of the Sherpa Super Jet as well. Although it doesn't have a chronograph function, somehow I like the simplicity of design/layout of the Sherpa Super Jet more than the Jet Graph. This of course is a matter of personal preference, but just my opinion.
 
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