A White 1c Graph popped up today on Ebay and was gone in a few hours

[Joe_A]

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I contacted the seller to confirm the serial number as 5277xx.

The movement looked very good but I found myself wishing for better high-res dial photos.

It sold for just under 6000 EUR in a couple hours.

 

[SteveHarris]

Yep - I was watching that one and had contacted the seller too Joe. He would only accept payment via bank transfer, which I don't like and I don't have the funds yet anyway. Was hoping this would still be around at the middle of next week when I might have done.

Steve

 

[JimJupiter]

It is going to Italy, final price was 5.500€. Bargain I would say considering the nice condition.

 

[Joe_A]

It is going to Italy, final price was 5.500€. Bargain I would say considering the nice condition.

Insider information.

I am on the lookout for a 1b or 1c or one of each if the timing is right. I really like the early logo.

Yesterday I was very busy and had not much time in front of the computer. I don't like to use my phone to analyze photos. The opening bid price shown was 5997 EUR. For all I knew, he may have expected twice that number. I actually asked two questions, one having to do with the S/N and the second was "Will you accept 6,000 EUR?" I did not make a formal offer though, wanting to see what response would come back and he appeared not to understand . . . because the answer I received to the second question was one word: "bild" Had he said anything like "Bitte machen Sie ein Angebot," I would have understood.

As I have a fine white 1d, and as he had hi-res close-ups of the movement, but not of the dial, I was sufficiently undecided as to why he would have hi-res of one, but not the other as to be "of two minds."

The final price was certainly a bargain if what we thought that we saw was what we would receive. Still, it is a lot of money to put into the hands of a stranger without recommendation or reputation..

But I suppose that is a place where many bargains will be found, laying side by side with risk..

 

[JimJupiter]

Not really, he told me it might be going to Italy, and eBay told me the final price It's common with some German sellers, that the don't trust Paypal or Credit Cards. I think the seller is trustworthy, hence he is selling watches all the time too. Why he hasnt High Res pics is a good question that I asked him too (and havnt got an answer).

But yes, the discount is paid with a bit of risk everytime on the bay.

Happy Hunting!

 

[Joe_A]

Not really, he told me it might be going to Italy, and eBay told me the final price It's common with some German sellers, that the don't trust Paypal or Credit Cards. I think the seller is trustworthy, hence he is selling watches all the time too. Why he hasnt High Res pics is a good question that I asked him too (and havnt got an answer).

But yes, the discount is paid with a bit of risk everytime on the bay.

Happy Hunting!

Ah, OK.

This is what my Ebay page shows:



So it was not clear to me that it sold for EUR 5500 from the above only.

Here is a bit of a dilemma . . .

I doubt that we in here want to knowingly bid against one another - and when such knowledge comes about, we want to behave as gentlemen - so I generally only post about such things when I've decided not to make an offer or after the matter has been decided.

The gray and white was an exception as I thought I'd be going over the fellow's home and sitting face-to-face with him to further evaluate . . . as he is practically "down the road a piece" from me.

There is often an element of luck when it comes to these sorts of things. I would not have minded using a Transferwise funds transfer if I felt the guy was trustworthy.

It seems lately that more fine Graphs are coming up for sale, so perhaps Steve and I will have another shot soon!

 

[JimJupiter]

Same with me, but the Enicar world is so small, there is no doubt someone else is also bidding

Btw there is a Bug or Feature in ebay. If you offer your price (like 1$ as alibi), you see the result of the winning offer by email. Like here for the shown watch:



And yes, I have also the feeling we see more watches lately.